The Rosbrook Tape: What’s Verified, What’s Suspected, and What We Still Need

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TL;DR: The best-documented length of the hotel-window portion of Guy Rosbrook & Tami Michaels’ footage is ~25:12, per ABC→NIST’s entry for “ABC NIST Dub #7 – Tami Michaels, Guy Rosbrook.” Public FOIA-route rips match that. A WNBC segment explicitly says “the tape, which lasts 28 minutes” (hear it @ 1:43 below) — so “28 minutes” is broadcast-verified as how a newsroom framed it. However, that line by itself doesn’t prove a continuous 28-minute hotel-window roll; ABC/NIST ingest logs or newsroom dub sheets with exact timecodes are still needed to settle 25:12 hotel vs. ~28 overall (hotel + street).

What’s verified (paper trail + matching public rips)

The “~28 minutes” question — and what the broadcast proves

Broadcast-verified: A WNBC segment explicitly says “the tape, which lasts 28 minutes” while showing the Rosbrook/Michaels footage. Hear it at 1:43 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwISNFFnn8

What that means: It confirms how a newsroom publicly framed the runtime (≈28 minutes). It does not by itself prove the hotel-window portion runs 28 minutes continuously — ABC→NIST paperwork still documents the hotel-window segment at ~25:12, with street minutes afterward. To resolve this, we need ingest/dub logs with exact timecode in/out.

Leads worth checking (from community doc + cross-refs)

Content warning: some links describe or discuss graphic scenes.

A) Early forum chatter tying “28 minutes” to a WNBC/FeedRoom post

B) RSSing mirror of a BestGore page (2012) naming Rosbrook/Michaels and noting impacts ~6:40

C) LiveLeak item “WTC Horror (Includes gore)” (2006)

D) ProChan embedding path

  • Some versions were apparently embedded from ProChan (now down). The embed URL often cited is:
    http://www.prochan.com/embed?f=536_1367339381

  • Team notes include a title seen in that embed — “Raw 9/11 Footage from a Hotel Window” — and a BestGore-watermarked thumbnail (consistent with B).

E) Additional community mentions

Broadcast evidence (verified on air)

  • WNBC segment with the quote — “the tape, which lasts 28 minutes.”
    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwISNFFnn8 • Timestamp: 1:43 • (WNBC/NBC4 package with Rosbrook footage). Please mirror and post hashes.

Original sources for this segment:

  • Source 1: NIST FOIA 09-42 Release 25, 42A0094 – G25D4 (last 4 minutes of tape) — Tape ID: 406, Video ID: 181, NIST Classification: 397-I.

  • Source 2: NIST FOIA 09-42 Release 14 (Uncompressed), WNBC NIST Dub #7, clips 41–57.

How to cite this broadcast cleanly:

Outlet: WNBC (NBC4 New York)
Segment: Rosbrook/Michaels package (2002-era)
Quote: “the tape, which lasts 28 minutes”
Public link + timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwISNFFnn8 @ 1:43
Primary provenance:

  • NIST FOIA 09-42 Release 25, 42A0094 – G25D4 (last 4 minutes)
    Tape ID: 406 | Video ID: 181 | NIST Classification: 397-I
  • NIST FOIA 09-42 Release 14 (Uncompressed), WNBC NIST Dub #7, clips 41–57
    Hashes of your mirror: SHA-256 / MD5

Claims vs. Evidence (at a glance)

Claim Evidence status What would prove it next
Hotel-window segment is ~25:12 Strong (ABC→NIST entry; FOIA-route rips match) ABC/NIST ingest logs with timecode in/out
Anchor said “the tape … lasts 28 minutes” Verified (WNBC clip @ 1:43) Mirror + hashes + caption/transcript excerpt in the post
Ground-impact closeups around ~6:40 exist in a version Indirect (RSSing/LiveLeak text descriptions) Actual clip or reliable mirror with that sequence
A longer, continuous 28-minute hotel roll exists Unproven ABC/NIST logs or newsroom dub sheets showing TC > 25:12

How to contribute (submission template)

Specimen link:
Lineage: FOIA DVD rip / Archive.org / FeedRoom / newsroom dub / broadcast cap / “enhanced”
Exact duration (H:MM:SS.ff):
Suspected cut(s) at: (timecodes)
Notes: (audio pops, duplicated frames, deinterlace hitches, etc.)
Hashes: MD5 / SHA-256

Tag suggestions: timing-claim, foia-doc, broadcast-quote, specimen-rip, compilation

FOIA / archive request text (copy & paste)

To NIST (re: FOIA #09-42, ABC Dub #7)

We request all ingest logs, clip lists (with exact in/out timecodes), transfer metadata, and any QC/editorial notes for “ABC NIST Dub #7 – Tami Michaels, Guy Rosbrook,” Video_ID 230, Tape_ID 508/509. Specifically, the full continuous duration of the hotel-vantage recording (noted as 0:00–25:12), any additional minutes immediately after at street level, and the complete 25:30–54:20 interview. Please include references to any related identifiers, original timecode if present, and documentation of clip splits made “later into clips by video editing software.”

To ABC News Archives

We’re researching the Guy Rosbrook / Tami Michaels 9/11 recording from Millennium Hilton room 35F, later provided to NIST as “ABC NIST Dub #7 – Tami Michaels, Guy Rosbrook” (Video_ID 230, Tape_ID 508/509). Please provide: (1) field/camera master logs and any paper logs; (2) dub order sheets / database entries; (3) confirmation of the continuous duration of the hotel-window sequence and whether minutes exist beyond 25:12 in ABC custody.

To NBC/WNBC Archives

We seek catalog data and any FeedRoom/dub sheets tied to WNBC’s handling of the Rosbrook/Michaels tape (e.g., newsroom dubs and the defunct wnbc.feedroom.com entry cited in 2003 Ogrish posts), to verify the original continuous duration and any newsroom description stating “~28 minutes.”

Sources

Ethical note

Please do not contact the videographers or survivors for footage. Focus on public archives, logs, and broadcasts. Respect people who lived through that day.

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