i was around the penttbomb discord and found a guys telling he was a witness and the conversation is below:
i had lots of recreations but it wasnt on my new pc but i can send them here
this is the most accurate we have
tell everything that is different and similar
Ruby
So that first body that falls, he rapidly aims up to catch it falling and just barely gets some of the drop in the cam. It was a much more zoomed in POV. Also where the orange tile is on the bottom, was foliage(plants) before it. similar to that Chinese tourist video making its rounds when the search was gaining traction.
Now for some reason I swear to god there was a car in view. A blue Chevy cobalt is what I seem@to remember it looking like (which was a new car coming out at the time)
ShownMaster(BSS Searcher) — Ontem às 21:05
where was the car?
Ruby
It was in view as he was running to the filming location and then he goes past it before the bodies fall.
But not in view the entire video
ShownMaster
but where exactly? and did a jumper hit it?
Ruby
No not at all. Behind the camera view by the time the bodies fall.
He would have had to run past it to his right
Not closely but just visible in frame
ShownMaster
ok
what about the audio?
is it accurate
Ruby
But the car part does not line up with everyone else’s so that’s where I doubt my memory. The audio didn’t have music, it was raw footage sound.
Music came from people reposting
ShownMaster
oh
Ruby
Lower res camera audio if that makes sense
ShownMaster
so about the jumpers where, when and how did the jumpers fall?
Ruby
First one is about accurate, in the video it seemed closer but that could be due to zooming in or camera resolution. The rest of the bodies landed very closely in time to eachother after the first one. First body had a white dress shirt on.
Button up like you’d find at JCPenney
ShownMaster
what was the distance from the cameraman to the bodies?
Ruby
I also feel like where the recreation differs is the other bodies landed further to the left than the first
I can’t be super accurate as he could have been zoomed it or etc. but far enough you wouldn’t have seen him in the pics we have now.
If you ask me I’d tell you he was zoomed in on a camera
ShownMaster
a different question now: can i put the info on discord for recreations?
Ruby
Yea don’t matta to me. It’s what I remember 100%.
ShownMaster
zoomed in like how much?
Ruby
Lemme see if I can find a random video with similar point of view
ShownMaster
you could see just the bodies or you could see more
Ruby
So that it’s easier to see than explain
ShownMaster
jack taliercio, guy rosbrook are some options
Ruby
You could see more til after the bodies dropped then it was clearly the focus of what he was filming.
But the person who filmed it. Knows what he was filming and didn’t seem to be as shocked as you’d think someone would be. No screaming or freaking out, just a lil shaky but focused filming.
ShownMaster
if you want the most accurate, you can see the archives of nist of videos from 9/11
ShownMaster
not like the other info where he stood there shocked?
Ruby
So this is some completely random video. But it starts and ends with similar zoom levels on an older camera
ShownMaster
ok
what year did you see it?
Ruby
Could be shock, but for being so shocked, he continued filming the bodies until all dropped and the video just ends with the camera starting to whip away as I would assume to get out of the area.
Early 2010-2012 range
ShownMaster
so how did the video ended?
Ruby
Would have been on my first laptop when I was young. Lime green dell Inspiron 13 laptop. Remember it clear as day.
Video ends with after all bodies had fallen the camera starts to whip away like the person filming knew it was time to leave.
ShownMaster
what about this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0-_sanY_u0
LOL SUPERMAN 9/11 lost media recreation in Garry’s Mod
is it similar?
Ruby
Haven’t watched the entire thing yet but within 16 seconds it already looks more accurate to what I saw
Than the first one
ShownMaster
how did man turns to jam started?
also, im sorry if im asking too many questions
Ruby
Like that, you see green foliage as they make their way closer to the scene. Blue car might have actually been in view before the escalators which would make sense as a street is there.
ShownMaster
was there 2 persons filming?
Ruby
I feel like I remember 1. So one person filming.
I don’t remember hearing a second person or seeing either
But due to the camera being more zoomed in it could still be possible
Audio was just loud crashes and bangs/atmosphere noise of the event. I wouldn’t have been able to hear another person unless they were yelling loudly.
ShownMaster
how many jumpers did he film?
Ruby
Also you didn’t hear the bodies crash, muffled by same sound around them.
Just saw em
ShownMaster
it wasnt a loud sound?
Ruby
Not when they landed. It was overtaken by environment noise.
Which is why part of me wants to say they were a bit further away
And it was zoomed in footage
ShownMaster
how did the bodies look?
Ruby
First one was gore, limbs missing and lots of blood. The rest I don’t remember seeing a lot of detail/gores other than the bodies “bouncingl
“Bouncing”*
ShownMaster
what was the distance from the cameraman to the jumpers?
Ruby
First body is closer than the rest and first body landed further to the right.
So if zoomed in, 30-40ft to the SECOND round of bodies. But if zoomed in, that won’t be accurate.
First was closer by a good bit
ShownMaster
did the video start on the plaza or on the stairways
Ruby
Stairway
I remember him walking up
ShownMaster
ok
was the video recorded on vhs?
Ruby
Yes, low quality, sound and video
It didn’t seem like some super professional camera
Like news or etc. would have had
But I also don’t know how much YouTube compressed videos back then
ShownMaster
it was amateur footage then?
Ruby
As the best quality was 360p then
Seemed WAY more amateur than professional
But in that situation under those circumstances I can’t be sure.
ShownMaster
ok uhh
what was the whole path from start to end?
Ruby
But I 100% feel I know it is real. I’ve seen gore videos a lot over the years, and this one has never left my memory, It’d always pop into my head randomly over the years. Another big reason for me is I had NO idea it was lost media and being searched for until I went to go watch it again.
ShownMaster
ooh
Ruby
I had no prior knowledge that people were looking for it. I was out of morbid curiosity and death is a very interesting topic to me.
ShownMaster
i will send an image of the plaza and can you trace the path you remember?
Ruby
Sure
Also my age is .., so I would have been an early teen when I saw it. That stuff sticks with you at that age.
ShownMaster
cool
sorry if you dont know the places
Ruby
All good I’ll get it drawn up for u.
ShownMaster
thanks
Ruby
To jog my memory, stage was infront of WTC1 correct?
ShownMaster
yes
Ruby
Hopefully I have my directions in my head right. But this is it (in red lol). There wasn’t some long walking scene, it was pretty quick from one to the other in events.
ShownMaster
thanks
Ruby
If not even that far, my fingers just can’t get super detailed on my screen.
ShownMaster
what was the lenght of the video?
Ruby
Quick, in the moment I’m not sure as I was focusing on what happened in the video but I can’t say longer than 2 mins if that.
Was quick
ShownMaster
ok
Ruby
I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the Chinese tourist video. But that’s the closest to accurate beginning angle I have seen.
Like exactly what I remember
ShownMaster
damn
can you see other 9/11 footage and tell me if you actually saw it or it was another video?
Ruby
Yes
Easily
ShownMaster
ok