Hello everyone. Co-Owner of the Discord server and ex Owner here.
LSM is most likely faked or you guys are a bunch of retards that can’t remember it correctly.
I’ve been analyzing the Rosbrook footage a lot:
From what I can see there were (possibly) 3-4 bodies landing in the exact area LSM witnesses recounted. Issue is, there are no cameraman in sight. There are no moving pixels, no reaction from Rosbrook&Tami, it’s just nothing because there is no cameraman apperant at the plaza. Don’t even bring up that shitty 5 pixel cameraman, that is heavily retarded.
I might be wrong because Rosbrook did not zoom in on the plaza until 5 minutes after the supposed LSM recording. I still find in highly unlikely that someone just entered the plaza for some reason and brought his camera in that 5 minutes window, recorded the jumpers and somehow escaped back before Rosbrook started filming his tape. Even while writing this it sounds so absurd. You’d think a story like this would be one of the popular survivor testimonies because he enters the fucking plaza and somehow manages to escape from it too. But no, no single mention of this shit ever somewhere.
Better yet, the OG 4chan user was contacted. Not only he debunked MTTJ as Rosbrook but he also recalls the superman video as a video which jumper falls on a car. We showed him a recreation of a jumper falling on car, he said this is it. “What if he is bullshitting?” He can’t be bullshitting unless he’s been dragging on a lie for 11 years. The original LSM must be extremely similar to that.
There’s only one jumper which fell on a car and that is not recorded ever.
We also got Transylvania, he is a trusted member here that has searched with us since the MTTJResearch sub was established. He saw a jumper video which is edited to a jumper falling on a car on Heavy-R. I don’t believe testimonies but he’s a trusted source.
For a year now, we have searched every little corner of internet. It came down to Backpack developing a new tool that let us install websites straight outta wayback machine. We still have a handful of Pre-2015 testimonies despite doing a comprehensive search. Plus all of the leads that we have and had always gets debunked to either Rosbrook or Taliercio tape. From researching old internet, it is 100% Rosbrook when people are talking about a jumper impact video. Literally, go to every old forum ever, it was popular and everyone wanted to see the Rosbrook tape since it was rumored even before it was released. Not even that but there were speculations of people asking ground footage with victims still strapped to the plane seats. Rosbrook footage started booming in 2006-2008, any reference to jumpers hitting the ground is literally Rosbrook, it is not LSM.
The people who defend the existence of LSM always brings up that “These people had to see something.. not everyone gotta be lying.”. While this makes sense, if you have read up to hundreds of testimonies like me you will know that most of these “testimonies” are either people misremembering Rosbrook, or people bullshitting because they take parts from other testimonies. Like one cliche that comes into my mind is “We gotta blur that out”. This is so retarded. If LSM was ever recorded, it couldn’t have been done by a professional cameraman so why would they even have an issue with blurring a graphic footage.
Another thing cliche is “I saw it on my school laptop, I saw it on my WW2 veteran Grandpa’s HP laptop”. I don’t even want to begin with this because school computers weren’t even a regulation up until 2015. Ever wondered why all post-2023 testimonies can’t even provide a website or even a fucking description of a website? Because they are all bullshitters. Even if they describe it, the website just straight up does not exist. I’ve got two examples. One is Mindless_Rod_Licker, aka the guy who gave us the MTTJ testimony. The website he drew, explained does not exist and not even gorehounds recall such website. The other is MasterHobbo which is currently active in this sub aswell. Buddy, you are a bullshitter. We have looked thru dozens of websites that were active during the time you stated in your testimony. None of them fit it. Not to mention you also believe viewdoor’s bullshit. People lie, I lie too. This is very fucking normal when it comes to a topic of lost media but some retards really like taking testimonies like definitive proof.
Let’s say we take the professional cameraman recorded LSM theory, even though it is 100% not possible. It still IS RETARDED!
There are 2 known videographers who were known to have filmed footage in the Austin J Tobin plaza on 9/11, Jack Taliercio and Glen Pettit.
Let’s start with Jack, Jack had actually attempted to enter the plaza shortly after 8:46 but was turned away by police.
The only reason Jack was able to sneak into the plaza was because of UA175 striking the South Tower at 9:03, as police were busy reorganizing themselves, the reason I mention this is because right after AA11 struck the North Tower, police presence was so heavy around the WTC complex it was impossible to enter it without proper clearance.
The footage that Jack Taliercio took is publicly available in full on YouTube, as it was part of an NIST release in 2010, there are no “cut segments”, there is no “full uncut version” like people say, the footage released in 2010 is the full footage.
Now let’s talk about Glen Pettit, Glen was a freelance videographer for the NYPD, and actually entered the plaza with several police officers, this explains why he was able to enter the plaza after 8:46.
Glen was actually a friend of Jack’s and they stopped and spoke to each other briefly while in the plaza, Jack speaks about Glen in this interview from 2002.
Glen was killed when the South Tower collapsed on top of WTC4, which Glen was located in.
It’s unknown whether or not Glen’s footage survived (presumably it did not), but what is worth noting is that if LSM does exist, Glen would most likely have filmed it.
Now that we’ve covered our videographers, let’s talk about why I don’t think it was filmed pre-9:03
Before 9:03
Prior to 9:03, 17 people jumped from the North Tower, 16 of them jumped from the East face of WTC1, which would have caused them to land in the plaza, and several of them landed several seconds right after each other, this is a perfect time frame for lol superman, right?
Well not exactly, while yes, there were people in the plaza when AA11 hit (most notably Joe Cullity), it was unlikely any of them had cameras as the observation deck on WTC2 opened at 9:30 AM, so it was mostly employees who worked at the WTC at that point.
It’s also unlikely any of them stuck around after the initial impact, as the plaza was almost immediately evacuated.
This brings me to my next point, the evacuation.
People were not evacuated through the plaza due to concerns of falling debris and people, they were evacuated through the underground concourse which lead into the mall and away from the WTC.
So unless someone who
-Worked at the WTC
-Had a camera
-Evacuated through the plaza, ignoring orders and putting their life at risk
Which all in all is very unlikely.
All in all, it’s just incredibly unlikely that LSM exists, I used to believe skylight.mov could have been found aswell but that shit is just unreleased.
But that’s why I believe LOL SUPERMAN doesn’t exist, or was just a stupid edit of jumpers falling to a car.